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	<title>Comments on: Incoterms Explained : simply, we hope</title>
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		<title>By: 3plwire</title>
		<link>http://www.3plwire.com/2005/11/19/incoterms-explained-simply-we-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-208124</link>
		<dc:creator>3plwire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 06:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to John&#039;s comment he is basically just confirming what we already stated: that many companies often don&#039;t really understand the incoterms they are using and often they get misinterpreted. 

And he is right: it doesn&#039;t matter what ONE person thinks; it matters what TWO people think: both the buyer and the seller. At the end of the day what is most important is what both the buyer and seller understand and agree to. If you are not sure how the other party interprets the selling / incoterm, ask them: make sure you know. 

And as we always say, consult an experienced trade attorney with experience settling trade / incoterms disputes. They will be able to advise you on the proper definition of the incoterms you use. 

As for Linda&#039;s question, you didn&#039;t indicate what incoterm you had a question on but since you referenced John&#039;s question I assume you are selling on DDU terms. Your obligation under DDU terms ends once the cargo is delivered to the named place of destination mentioned in the terms. No, that does not include Customs Clearance which is the responsibility of the buyer / customer. If it&#039;s taking 7 days to clear through Customs (which I find absolutely ridiculous unless Customs is inspecting each and every shipment) that&#039;s the buyer&#039;s problem, not yours. Your responsibility ends once you have reached the named destination in the DDU terms. Is it your buyer&#039;s address? Then you would be obligated to deliver to their address. 

Most importantly, remember that DDU has been removed from Incoterms 2010 and the new incoterm DAP (Delivered At Place) replaces it. So while many companies are still using DDU, the proper new term they should be using is DAP, which is actually far clearer. Note that DAP, like DDU, does not include customs clearance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to John&#8217;s comment he is basically just confirming what we already stated: that many companies often don&#8217;t really understand the incoterms they are using and often they get misinterpreted. </p>
<p>And he is right: it doesn&#8217;t matter what ONE person thinks; it matters what TWO people think: both the buyer and the seller. At the end of the day what is most important is what both the buyer and seller understand and agree to. If you are not sure how the other party interprets the selling / incoterm, ask them: make sure you know. </p>
<p>And as we always say, consult an experienced trade attorney with experience settling trade / incoterms disputes. They will be able to advise you on the proper definition of the incoterms you use. </p>
<p>As for Linda&#8217;s question, you didn&#8217;t indicate what incoterm you had a question on but since you referenced John&#8217;s question I assume you are selling on DDU terms. Your obligation under DDU terms ends once the cargo is delivered to the named place of destination mentioned in the terms. No, that does not include Customs Clearance which is the responsibility of the buyer / customer. If it&#8217;s taking 7 days to clear through Customs (which I find absolutely ridiculous unless Customs is inspecting each and every shipment) that&#8217;s the buyer&#8217;s problem, not yours. Your responsibility ends once you have reached the named destination in the DDU terms. Is it your buyer&#8217;s address? Then you would be obligated to deliver to their address. </p>
<p>Most importantly, remember that DDU has been removed from Incoterms 2010 and the new incoterm DAP (Delivered At Place) replaces it. So while many companies are still using DDU, the proper new term they should be using is DAP, which is actually far clearer. Note that DAP, like DDU, does not include customs clearance.</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So would like to know the answer to John&#039;s question myself.  

We have a customer whos broker does the clearing but the destination is the customers address.  Our carrier indicates customs delay - which indicates they have passed to the broker it can be up to 7 days for them to clear.  When is our obligation completed in this case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So would like to know the answer to John&#8217;s question myself.  </p>
<p>We have a customer whos broker does the clearing but the destination is the customers address.  Our carrier indicates customs delay &#8211; which indicates they have passed to the broker it can be up to 7 days for them to clear.  When is our obligation completed in this case?</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.3plwire.com/2005/11/19/incoterms-explained-simply-we-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-163995</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a start I don&#039;t anybody involved in Incoterms really understand what they are talking about and so I suppose that includes you.
Also it doesn&#039;t matter what one person thinks is correct because another will disagree.
What do I bill back to HKG on a DDU shipment? I say Customs Clearance handling and delivery but a lot of people say Customs Clearance is to the consignee with duty and tax. So tell me how you deliver without clearing first and therefore clearance being part of DDU. So which new code explains that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a start I don&#8217;t anybody involved in Incoterms really understand what they are talking about and so I suppose that includes you.<br />
Also it doesn&#8217;t matter what one person thinks is correct because another will disagree.<br />
What do I bill back to HKG on a DDU shipment? I say Customs Clearance handling and delivery but a lot of people say Customs Clearance is to the consignee with duty and tax. So tell me how you deliver without clearing first and therefore clearance being part of DDU. So which new code explains that?</p>
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